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7.0 not on DELL R430 HCL? :/

Hey

So I’m pretty newish to VMware (only sysadmin for 2 years doing everything myself – “Jack of all trades”)

I have a cluster of DELL R430 because the old sysadmin unfortunately bought them like 6 months before R440 came out. And now it seems they are not on 7.0 HCL :/ Strange enough it seems 530 + 630 + 730 is all fine, but 430 got “cancelled” this time.

Problem is ESXi 6.7 won’t be supported for very long – 2021/11/15.

I also generally don’t like being very far behind. Currently running 6.7U3.

What are my options here?

Should I wait a year and then beg CEO for permissions to buy then (hopefully) R450’s or should I be running 6.7 U3 until late 2021 and how bad would that be?

I don’t think running outside HCL is good in production so that is probably a no go.

Why is 6.7 only supported the same as 6.5?

Would love to hear your ideas. Nothing major issue yet, but I like to get an idea of my options.


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4 Comments

  1. > Why is 6.7 only supported the same as 6.5?

    It still blows my mind that they made the decision to do this, and especially that the decision to end support on 6.7 was made months beffore 7.0 was even available. The entire world basically has 19 months to get their entire infrastructure to 7.0 before they lose support, and there’s going to be a raging COVID-19 pandemic for at least half of those months. The only reason I can imagine for them making that decision is because they’re losing too much licensing money with customers moving to higher core count servers. Right now having more than 32 cores per socket is a rarity, but by November of 2021 it will probably be standard for most enterprises.

    > I also generally don’t like being very far behind. Currently running 6.7U3.

    I generally like to be one release behind so that I’m not getting killed by any major bugs/issues. Barring that, I like to have a good 5-6 months of the latest release baking in before I jump on it.

    > Should I wait a year and then beg CEO for permissions to buy then (hopefully) R450’s or should I be running 6.7 U3 until late 2021 and how bad would that be?

    Stay on 6.7 U3 and then give it some time for everyone to update their HCL. Dell may have prioritized their testing on other models based on sales volume or some other metric. Unless those servers have the Westmere generation CPUs, in which case it appears you are out of luck. I don’t know how big your operation is, but if I were in that situation then I would send a note up the chain now that it appears your current hardware will not be supported on the new version of ESXi and that the current version is EOS in November 2021. Keep them in the loop early so that if you need to be planning for a hardware refresh they know about it as soon as possible.

  2. Is there a real need to be an ESXI 7.0 early adapter? Wait and observe the issues that are discovered by other organizations. In the meantime, make sure you learn how to expertly utilize ESXI 6.7U3 like your life depends on it.

    Create an excellent CBA to support a server and software upgrade or the CEO/CIO will deny your request.

    R430/R530 use the same E5-26xx V3/V4 series cpu, C610 chipset and DDR4 DIMMs so in theory, if 7.0 works on R530 it should also work on the R430. If you check the entire HCL you will notice that the XC430-4 appliance (same CPU, chipset and DIMM setup but only 4 drive bays) is listed as being OK.

  3. Dell probably prioritized accrediting the 440s…they may or may not work on some of the older models as time goes on. Same thing happened with the vSphere 6.7 a few months in some of the older models popped up on the HCL. Takes time to test and 7.0 just came out today…so don’t stress too much about it yet

  4. R440’s and R630’s are on the vSphere 7.0 HCL, you’re right. Not sure why R430s aren’t while R630’s are.

    Edit: I put 430 instead of 440 in the first word.

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