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I’m moving away from VMware – VMware alternatives

I’m moving away from VMware – VMware alternatives

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“Willie Howe”

I have an esxi 6.5 server that I have to either upgrade or migrate away from esxi/VMware. My current thoughts are to either to go Microsoft Hyper-V, straight KVM on Ubuntu managed with Cockpit, Proxmox, XCP-ng, Citrix, Xen, or Harvester. What platform are you running on? Remember a type 1…

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  1. I've got Proxmox and XCP-NG running at home….while different, i have to say I think I prefer XCP-NG overall. Proxmox has a lot of good qualities, but I'm telling you….the support you get for the free version is unheard of. A bug cropped up in one of the latest code merges, and I reported it in the forums (I'm ignorant of how git works for bug reporting…so I didn't want to try and learn). So I reported in the forums….Oliver replied within an hour (I believe) and they were working on it, tracked it down and had a patch uploaded to git within a few hours. This is for the FREE VERSION. Are you kidding me? I'm playing around with Proxmox, trying things and whatnot.

    But for clients and production….I think XCP-NG / Xen Orchestra is the way to go.

  2. Professionaly I manage VMWare, SCALE, Nutanix and have one customer that uses Hyper-V. Hyper-V is the least capable of the bunch from my experience.
    My home lab is Proxmox. I did have an Oracle Virtualbox running headless with phpVirtualBox as a front just to see what it can do.
    My preference is Proxmox. I have been using Proxmox in my home lab for around 2 years. I found it to be easy to use with a small learning curve and is very manageble. The abilities and scalability this Hypervisor has estonishes me what can be accomplished.

  3. Migrated from ESXi to Proxmox three years ago and never looked back. As you know Proxmox is a Type-I hypervisor like ESX. Easy learning curve and Proxmox has been a solid performer. A much wider selection of hardware is easily supported as needed. It works great if you require special USB passthrough and the like. It is very versatile virtualization system.

  4. Just moved to Proxmox. Love it. Able to create VM snapshots, create clusters, etc. Very prosumer if not Enterprise. Used XenServer about 15 years ago. Can't say much other than it was difficult to deploy compared to vmware.

  5. Running vSphere 8 with NFR licenses. It is a full setup with a vCenter and multiple hosts. Know a lot of people that run in the same scenario or with licenses from VMUG Advantage (pay annually and run whatever and however many you want). vSphere 8 is nice as they include the ESXi community NIC driver so you can have consumer grade hardware as hosts. I previously ran Nutanix CE with was the community edition of their type 1 hypervisor (AHV).

  6. Interesting no mention of Nutanix HCI. There's a community edition as well. Their no-added-cost AHV/AOS combo is solid and runs well on their own branded hardware (but you have choices there, including running VMWare on it). Supports KVM/Qemu images underneath. Easy to build VMs with baked-in support for cloud-init. Easy to add more nodes and/or blocks as demand grows. So many add-ons but requires a budget. It's not a complete discussion without at least mentioning them.

  7. Proxmox has been solid for me for 4 years running 11 VMs ranging from UniFi Controller, 3CX PBX, PiHole, Quickbooks, Door Access Control, FTPBackup, Windows Depolyment Server, Minecraft Server with zero downtime. I was a virtualization noob and I was able to set Proxmox up with little effort.

  8. ProxMox at home AND work since 2017. I could see the writing on the wall with ESXi back then.

    A WARNING THOUGH: If you are trying to use ZFS and have a standard 512e drive (most drives will not be 4kn) then you will want to set "ashift" on the pool to 12 at the time of creation (default 9 is good for 4kn enterprise drives). The ashift is set per VM disk and cannot be easily changed later.

    This will cause a big headache otherwise, for example 1GB of VM data taking up 2GB of storage space etc.

  9. I did a headless virtualbox on Ubuntu many, many years ago – all via cli. Then switched to Hyper-V Server, and finally ended up XCP-NG as my current. VMware is still the best if funds didn't matter.

  10. We are currently exclusively Hyper-V across our data centers where we host SAP Business One for customers across the world…I toyed with vSphere early on but got in to trouble running SAP HANA on vSphere with random crashes

  11. Proxmoxve been running it since version 0.9 been pretty rock solid for me plus the proxmox backup server works great for backup I have the proxmox backup server running in a vm on my synology box works well.

  12. I used ESXi for a few years but I got sick of it because backing up and clone VMs was so damn painful. I ended up switching to xcp-np with community version of xen-orchestra and I absolutely love it. It has this quirks, but overall it is rocksolid, the backups have saved me several times in the past couple years interface is very appealing. I tried proxmox but I just can’t around the interface and some of its quirks.

  13. XCP-ng with Xen Orchestra. 24 hosts, three resource pools, 200+ VM’s with backups and full replication. Runs just about perfect and Vates support is exceptional. In my home lab Proxmox is awesome. I specifically moved to XCP-ng from Xenserver because Citrix was a train wreck of a company. Xen Orchestra/XCP-ng is on par with scale and features with vSphere/ESXi, there just the learning curve.

  14. Started playing with ProxMox at home many years ago, and loved it. Rolled my work production VmWare servers about 3 years ago (when the license renewals came up – could not see spending the money for what I needed when ProxMox worked great) – been very happy with it and it does all I need for my small operations.

  15. I'm trying proxmox on my very small homelab, it is mini pc with ryzen 7 4800uh and 16gb ram, 512 gb and single network card, was wondering about xpc-ng or xen/citrix fork.

  16. I use both types, VMW Workstation, Virtualbox, and Windows Sandbox. Most extensive use for Type 1 of Hyper-V and FOC, with some of ESXi, Proxmox, and Xcp-ng. My favorite has been Hyper-v and VMWW followed by Proxmox.

  17. After the Broadcom news, I migrated from ESXi 7 to Proxmox. I'm very happy with Proxmox, although the storage stuff is a bit confusing (especially when you want encryption) and the configuration of vlans is a bit disappointing compared to VMware. Do not forget that Proxmox has containers too. The videos from ElectronicsWizardry have been very helpful.

  18. We moved on from VMware about 4 years after the agreement expired. Hyper-V works, I’ve never been a fan. Started with Proxmox in the lab, testing out XCP-ng.

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