Will Artificial Intelligence Redesign the Car As We
Will Artificial Intelligence Redesign the Car As We Know It?!
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In this episode, Imogen asks: Can anyone design a car using artificial intelligence, especially generative AI? If so, what does this mean for car design’s future?! To find out, she presents her AI-generated designs to legendary car designers Ian Callum and Aleck Jones, renowned for their work on Aston Martin, Jaguar and the Nyobolt reimagined Lotus Elise. Imogen also explores other AI applications in the automotive industry, speaking with the Umea Institute of Design, Monolith, and Hypervolt about skills development, unearthing new technologies from existing engineering data and, in the case of EVs, aiding grid and energy management. Enjoy! @EverythingElectricShow @fullychargedshow
00:00 Could anyone design an electric car?
01:00 Legendary designer Ian Callum
01:42 What is AI?
02:39 Do designers need to be able to draw?
05:40 Leveraging existing data to make better cars
09:41 AI for energy management
13:19 But can AI design a car?!
14:02 Ian and Aleck’s verdict!
15:29 Car 2, Review 2!
16:38 How should designers use AI?
17:17 Advice for future designers
18:36 Why do we need designers?
19:36 Concluding thoughts
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AI is just another brush…
AI is not capable of original thought, hey?
@fullychargedshow Hello, I was respectfully wondering if you had received a response from Phil Edwards the professor of statistics who published the fact that EVs were 300% more likely to be involved in crashes and collisions with pedestrians where you claimed the findings were a "downright lie". Was he correct or has he issued a retraction I have missed? Thanks.
its not AI… its called Machine learning.. huge difference
Just a heads up, you need a pop shield for your microphone
I always think of the job of automotive designers and how much of a technical understanding they have to posses in order to come up with designs that are beautiful but also functional, with different technical constraints. In that sense, there will be a day when AI will help or even do better to come up with clever designs, but I cannot imagine any emotional expression as a part of that process. Then again, what is creativity, but just a matter of adjusting and/or combining previous concepts
3D ClickArt, laziness in the extreme!
As I've said elsewhere many times. The 'AI' that is being bantered around I doubt significantly that it is real AI. Most of it is most likely just Machine learning. Maxine learning is NOT AI. Just Google "does true ai exist".
Human "intelligence" (😒), in response to the laws of physics and aerodynamic principles, killed car design 20 years ago 🤷. Exhibits:
– A: Certain shapes are optimal for aerodynamics, whether they are done by AI or humans. Hence, what everybody said about cars looking the same. Unique styling, therefore, is often different from optimal aerodynamics, not just different from other aesthetics. An egregious example is the Ford 500 looking just like its contemporary VW Passat, which itself was already milquetoast.
– B: Optimal design is not always attractive. The Pontiac Aztek was designed with a prompt we might not use for AI: Design an SUV with the brand design language, with the list of aerodynamic principles that previous SUVs ignored. On paper, the design was a great success. In practice, it was more like Homer Simpson's "rack and peanut steering" car.
– C: Optimal and (arguably) attractive design may not fit the market, while (arguably) unattractive design can be a surprise winner. See the first generation of Honda Insight vs. Toyota Prius. The less attractive, less optimal design still sold a bajillion more. That was sort of a last straw for Honda, at least for a while…
Ironically, if AI can be used to improve human design and/or marketing, it just might save car design 😅
this video like most AI trend video, is full of nothing. FCS, you are going out of idea ? no more car to review / drive ?
you could at least have asked the designers to do something. to prove a point.
Today's cars aren't as aerodynamic as they could be. Some old Citroen designs from the 70s were more streamlined. Many ev's have a huge flat fronts where the old grill used to be. Why? Even Telsa has a bit of a flat front where you can see tons of dead squished bugs. Is appearance more important energy saving?
A.I. will replace the designers.
It’s about time that cars change drastically. Visually…
And using AI is laziness.
The constraints of history and traditional thinking can hold us back from advancing. I once designed a knife handle that outdoor enthusiasts initially dismissed as impractical. However, when they tried it, they were shocked to find it worked better than any knife they'd used before. This experience taught me that our minds can be quick to say 'this will never work,' thereby limiting our potential. By embracing AI as a partner or even leader, we can overcome these limitations and step into a brighter future. Those who resist this collaboration may miss out on the opportunities that AI can bring
I love to use AI as a sounding board when there aren't the people around, but I don't think it should be used for the initial creation of ideas. It's an amazing resource to tweak things and I think it will be used really well to tweak a design to make it more aerodynamic or efficient in other ways, but not as the initial design concept of the vehicle.
the most energy efficient EV is a scooter.
Surely you could have come up with better images than these, they just look like cut and paste, not Ai generated
If there's an emotional part to the design, someone needs to tell the people who are manufacturing the current crop of vehicles, because they all look like the same blob just with a different manufacturer logo.
Most manufacturers have similar SUV blobs as their main sellers so AI can’t be worse.
Generative AI can be a really useful tool for springboarding ideas. Even bad generated images can help close down a line of thinking, or offer up a whiff of an idea to develop. Like any other tool, they can be used to save time but should empower, not disempower
To be honest, Ian and Aleck look at the design process from very stagnant (also understandable) point. They talk about form language and so on, but the reality is that it can be always redefined. The Rolls Royse cope is not dissimilar to the rivian/porsh amalgamation. But ultimately that amalgamation wasn't the AI's work but the human setting the task , the AI did the render. however if one leaves aside the design dogmas and can see a way to make the different forms to work together (I can in the given example) , then there is an oportunity to come up with a new form language which possibly could work. and with the rendering power of AI all the trial and errors process could be very fast. There is inherited arrogance in designers about the design process but ultimately there is a generic algorithm which if followed , pretty much any one can design. The video and examples had flaws and the people spoken to were probably not the best to speak to, but as a principle, design has an algorithm in it and therefore can be automated to certain level. And yes someone in the thread already said "all new cars look much the same" so clearly that (or an) algorithm is what people use to design too (just they are programed in universities and workplaces….)
"Could I design a car?", asks Imogen, the aerodynamics engineer who worked at JLR for 11 years. You know what, Imogen? I think you could.
In other words , get off my gravy train . Some of the best selling cars have a very simplistic design .
Interesting discussion and really makes you think what a good design offers to all parts of a car.
Imogen rocks 👍