The Ugly Face of the Beauty Industry – Freya India | Maiden

Whenever I hear women talking about unrealistic beauty standards I can only think of the male equivalent of the same phenomena. Personally, I see the standards for women much less strict and achievable compared to those being pushed upon men by young women. Men are much more forgiving and will compromise on there standards, whereas young women seem to be much more stringent and rigid. All of this can be seen with the amount of sexless, single men within Gen-Z, which is the result of them not meeting some threshold set by Gen-Z women. Another thing to add is that if men don't meet up to these standards it's there fault, where when women don't meet these standards it's societies fault and needs to be changed to fit accordingly.

The girl who wanted to tailor-make her own therapist – she wanted an older woman like an aunt.

In the future, can you index these videos so we can skip ahead to when you blame the feminists and transgenders?

Feminism is kancer and wimmin are chaos

Edit: It occurs to me that Kim Kardashian and the Instagram-face is for some women what a steroid-abusing body builder with enormous muscles is for some men – an image they aspire to because they wrongly assume the opposite sex finds it especially attractive. Some men are shocked to hear that women generally aren't very interested in massive muscles on men, and some women might be shocked to find the Kim K look isn't as attractive to men as they assume.

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Look it's also worth mentioning, anyone who doesn't think Narcissistic Personality is a real thing, for example, has never lived or interacted with narcissists. It's definitely useful for us to pathologize certain symptom clusters, and administer talk therapy treatments like CBT, DBT, which essentially involve mirroring, and parenting dysfunctional adults. If no one else is available in someone's life to fill this role, (typical for these kinds of selfish ppl,) a therapist can sometimes effectively fill the role, sure it requires a good therapist, and either insurance or $.  
But nevertheless, I'll also echo the spirit of this episode and other comments: over-pathologization is a problem, many therapists are bad at their jobs, psychopharmacology is largely a sham, industrial complex has heavily seeped in, the field has become wokeified in recent years like many fields, and psychology remains a young and incomplete science to begin with.

How can a woman possibly be depressed? Boo hoo.

This was an interesting conversation, but I can't help noticing that when women talk about "impossible beauty standards", it's often a message that comes from absurdly beautiful women like Freya India. One has to wonder why someone with a preternaturally pretty face is so concerned about crusading on behalf of her less aesthetically fortunate sistren. Is this a sort of survivor's guilt? Does she feel remorseful that she won the genetic lottery and acquired that perfect smile?

Perhaps she would point out that she's decrying the artificiality of digitally-created beauty icons, not natural ones. Still, regardless of the genesis of the image that is elevated as a beauty standard, such standards have always existed across every generation. This is nothing new. The modes of transmission and dissemination may have changed, but the concept is ancient. I understand her point, but i think if one takes the long view, one has to agree that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

There have always been impossible beauty standards because the pursuit of beauty is always aspirational. Thus will it always be. Only a tiny fraction of women get to be exceptionally beautiful, just as only a tiny fraction of men get to be high-value men. Such is life.

There have been many attempts over the decades to employ more "relatable" models in advertisements. We've lately seen the failure of such a movement yet again (although apparently not every advertiser has gotten the memo, as some of these images persist even at this late date). These movements for so-called body positivity always fail, and will always fail, because men and women intuitively understand what beauty and desirability and attractiveness really mean. Unfortunately part of what they mean is that most of us don't get to be exceptional, which is a harsh fact of life we all need to learn to live with comfortably. Real self-esteem isn't made by trying to deconstruct the concept of beauty standards, which will never happen. It's made by learning to enjoy life while fully acknowledging you don't dwell in the right tail of the distribution of human aesthetics. All this frought conversation and perseverating that gets repeated generation after generation is tiresome. Can't we just accept reality and learn to live the best life we can anyway?

Almost as soon as the age of mass media began, people began complaining about these themes. How long ago did Naomi Wolf begin her lifelong diatribe against the innate process of human mate selection as expressed in popular culture? Photos of beauty icons were airbrushed long before the digital age, and photoshopped long before the advent of social media filters and AI. Get over it and get on with life, Louise and Freya. You both turned out to be beautiful. Just acknowledge it, express a little gratitude to your parents and the cosmos, and stop fretting about the unlucky lot of your lessers. It comes off as selfish; unsatisfied with being more beautiful than 99.99% of women, you must also appropriate for yourselves the banner of moral crusaders. It's largely performative since you've never had to struggle with feeling ugly. Let it go and get on with life!

After listening to this, the common denominator of all the issues that are talked about in this episode is people not raising their children (for whatever reason) and letting them be raised by the internet with no kind of limit.

Talking about how fake cosmetic procedures look in real life from two women with their faces heavily painted is a bit weird.

I think that the pill pushing is almost about an issue with pride. I have a couple of friends who have subtly told me I should take anxiety pills (they both are on them for the long term) because I’m having trouble working in the field I studied for. I don’t want to take meds because I’m unable to do that job. Maybe I just made a mistake and need to aim elsewhere?! We’ve been sold the “you can achieve any of your dreams” thing and people aren’t able to accept that we all have limits.