SaltEMike Reacts to Star Citizen: Base Building Economics and

Everyone does know that military ships are supplied by companies right?

Tons of issues with this. Here are a few.

Shards cannot exist alongside persistent player housing. CIG will either put everything on a single server or have 1 server for only a few regions, or they will instance housing like other themeparks.

NPC defenses will either be immersion breaking powerful or pathetic. People will need to invest in defenses and keeping them armed.

Once again. Without a player economy, there is no use for anyone to attack anyone. All these.interactioons ppl are worried about are greatly exaggerated. Most of that stuff is for YouTube videos only because there is no real need to take anything

The part I agree most with Mike and least with Ray on for this entire vid is the "If you've paid real money for a land claim, you should get it whether High, Low or No."
Hard disagree.
If they did that every person would have bought a land claim and littered what is supposed to be dangerous, cutthroat living with a cozy neighborhood of concierge/whales likely even with an HOA.
Leave them High and Low, everyone works for No security, no free rides please CIG

Boats models are often made by different boat builders following a set design and that is the model. But it’s made by different people.

And spaceships are arguably boats. Cruisers, frigates, and so on are boats

Why does base building appeal to people? Having to always be concerned about defending something you can't move sounds like the worst idea ever to me.

if you want to see where crafting is going please do some research on the endeavor ship. It has a crafting module that explains kind of where crafting is going to go. you will be able to craft upgrades for different ships and "overclock" those items. which gives players incentives to trade with players to get better ship modules as opposed to standard store-bought items. This will allow player-to-player trading incentives and more player-to-player interactions. putting materials for crafting at the forefront. i also imagine you'll be able to use a base that has manufacturing and refinement building modules to fulfill the same function. the endeavor will be the mobile lite version of this.

I've always done some crafting in MMOs but it's never been a big thing for me… but then you said "Origin Franchise"… and that clicked. I'd also love to have something like a custom armour shop where we could alter and colour armours.

It seems like you are advocating for the game to be more like starfield where you can build big ships in your backyard by yourself. I think it would be dumb to be able to build an F7 hornet on your own as that would be like me building an F22 raptor on my own which is completely rediculous. Let alone an 890 jump. I think you should be able to build ships like that as an organization effort which takes a ton of time and resources to pan out.

"Just because you have the plans to build a saturn V rocket, does that mean you could?"

I mean there was that kind who built a nuclear reactor in his basement w/o any plans a few years ago, so ya know, there's that.

Most of the comments you make during this one are on the spot, in my opinion. I do draw the line at some of the ship crafting ones, though. Blending Coca-Cola is one thing, I can do that in a garage, but it's not quite the same as building a destroyer — but I know you know that.

You can probably craft smaller ships in your garage, some of the medium ships in your backyard, but you're going to need a dry dock to build anything bigger. A dry dock along with hundreds if not thousands of workers. You'll need fabricators and shops for them to work in. Specialized manufacturing shops for some of the components are a must-have. And some of the heavier ships need a space borne facility since they can't land on a planet; they most likely won't be able to launch from one either. Then, unless you would be happy with magic crafting beams or handwavium, construction could take months — or years — before it rolls out of the dock. Orgs will need to sink enormous chunks of UEC just to get the operation going. Without the efficiency of scale, each of your homemade destroyers will cost somewhere between 3 and 5 times the cost than just ordering one from the existing shipbuilders and take longer to finish. Personally, I would like to see org owned shipyards.

I would like to see some custom interiors being crafted. Build a false wall with a shielded cargo space for smuggling, add an additional missile rack or two, or weld external armor plates for added HP. These would affect performance, however, because everything is a trade off.

I think ship crafting will be more of ordering prefab parts from the factory and assembling them into a ship. Sort of like buying a kit car, or plane. Even then, you're likely talking about long build times while you give up running with your friends to spend time building your kit-ship.

Dude.. when he sais "google Kit airplanes", he should actually do it himself first. Ever heard of a Kitfor or Van's Aircraft, just to name two prominent examples? They are real full fledged airplanes that you can build in your garage or what have you. No jumbo jets of course, but full size single engine airplanes with GPS, auto pilot and so forth. Again a perfect example of an SC player with too narrow of an horizon making assumptions.
While I don't think you or your org should be able to built an Idris or even Bengal because of military reasons like secret blueprints or keeping the status quo, every civil ship should be fair game. Because… in RL, if you build a privat nuclear submarine, I'm pretty shure the US-Navy would come kicking down your door, no matter where you are in "lawless space" ^^.

And about the server thing… what do we mean by "shard"? Becaus what they showed in the server mesh demo was all in the same shard/world, just spread over different servers. So I think your base, your ships (purchased in game), as all your belongings should be locked to the region/shard your character exists. Why should I on the EU server-mesh care about your base in NA? And while yeah, there is a sense in not all players seeing each other at the same time in the same space, this isn't necessarry for bases/plots. Each plot should exist exactly once per region/mesh. If you change the mesh, you make a new character and start from scratch. The same goes, if we should end up with NA 1, NA 2, NA 3,…

in order to attack the base an so on you need to set a Timer that warns people so they have a chance to defend their stuff lets sat 11 am or Pm you set the timer then you have 1 hour to attack betrine that time also this way you secure battle an fights an action i dont like the setup as it is
the problem is everyone can just land on top of your shit they need to make Canons so they hit longer then ships so you have to go disable them before you can land a ship there an loot a storge house what ever..

as i see it right now the system is not good as it is an they need to adress this before i ever build anything.
also they need to make shure if you dont maintain it it gonna lose its power an protection an at the endt blow up or just disapir so you dont have bases everywhare..