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This Might Be The Perfect Mini PC
This Might Be The Perfect Mini PC
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He said "I don't mind burning bridges with companies that send me bad products!" 😂 +1
Can you do a very budget server
Like in many places in the world we can't find affordable used pc parts or they over priced
I'm currently using an old android phone as , dns server using adgurd
And torent client + and download manger using wget and tmux , and ftp server
You should spot the light on these kinda things and maybe find further uses for such old cheep hardware
just remove the case, is not even necessary at this point then just gen an extension cable and slap a high end gpu in.
The DaVinci resolve disparity is likely because the free version does not support hardware codec. So, the quicksync capability was not being used in that test (but nvenc was). Would love to see a transcode speed battle between the two.
Also, your color grading is CUDA accelerated (no Intel equivalent). So nvidia wins here no doubt.
I first read it as “Sponsored by Arpanet” and now I feel old 😂
Ryzen is still crushing the mini-PC space atm.
Wolfgang has good video on c states and older cards a lot of the cheap options on eBay lack c state support
External sas card and your golden for jelly fin. This is a neat mini
Nice machine. I would like to see a cheaper version that drops the sfp, and adds a forth m.2.
Im using ssds for everything moving forward
Important note for anyone who considering putting a U.2 drive in this system:
The height of the U.2 drive must not exceed 7mm, which excludes some of the most popular U.2 drives on the market, such as Kioxia CD6, WD SN640, or Samsung PM1733/1735, which are all 15mm drives.
I saw this machine but still got myself a Think Station P3 tiny. I chose an ES motherboard so that I got 3 M.2 slots. I paired the P3 tint with the i5-12400 and it was 1/3 cheaper than the MS-01 with the 12900H option.
There seemed to be an i5-12450h option with the MS-01, but it is not available and we don't know when they will start selling this option. I don't really like the i9 CPU that MS-01 provides right now because I don't want to stretch the cooling system too far.
I did see the appeal of the dual 10G NIC but for someone who doesn't really need it, it is a piece of hardware that consumes power and does nothing. On the other hand, I can add USB type A, DP, HDMI, or TypeC with video and charging to the Tiny via expansion modules, which makes it very flexible. However, doing this does sacrifice the PCIE cutout.
It is also more difficult to install PCIE cards sideways compared to Tiny's riser approach. At least it doesn't require a special PCIE bracket though.
All in all, I think both MS-01 and P3 Tiny are both nice SFF machines. It really comes down to whether you prefer the dual 10G SFP port and the USB4 port, (Yes, it is USB4 rather than Thunderbolt, although they are functionally the same.) or more flexibility.
I will also provide a quick technical comparison here for anyone interested:
P3 Tiny |VS| MS-01
form factor: Standard size |VS| A bit larger than Standard size. (Matters if you want to put it in a server rack.)
CPU: Any CPU from Intel 12,13 and 14GEN |VS| 13900H,12900H, or 12450H. (12450H not available yet.)
iGPU: MS-01 is always better as mobile chips always get better iGPU compared to their desktop counterpart.
NIC: i219-LM 1Gx1 |VS| i226v 2.5G + i226LM 2.5G +x710 10Gx2. (Both machines can support vPRO.)
PCIE: Gen4/5 x8 |VS| Gen4/5 x8. (Gen5 is available on 13th Gen CPUs.)
PCIE specific: Need custom PCIE bracket |VS| Difficult to install and uninstall.
USB Expansion: 4x10G type A + 2x5G type A + 1x10G type C |VS| 3x10G type A + 2x 480 M(2.0) type A + 2x40G USB4. (Tiny can expend 4x 5G type A or 1x10G type C with Video and charging expansion module, by giving up the PCIE cutout.)
Video Expansion: DP1.4 + HDMI 2.0 |VS| HDMI 2.0 + 2xUSB4. (Tiny can expend 2xDP, 2xHDMI, or 2xTypeC DPalt via the expansion module, by giving up the PCIE cutout.)
Storage Expansion: 2xM.2 |VS| 2xM.2 + 1x M.2/U.2. (Tiny get 3xM.2 on the ES motherboard)
I love my Aranet! Unexpected but nice to see that they’ve sponsored you, first time I’ve seen them do a sponsorship
This is basically a laptop mobo without the external aceesories. So awesome! But I prefer Ryzen, they are just better and thougher!!
heck yes
Can you run ESXI on it?
Reminds me of the Thinkstation Tiny's from Lenovo, those also have a PCIe slot in a 1L package
Every. Fcking. Day. 140 new videos like this are uploaded to YouTube. Each one Telling how THIS mini pc is the best perfect marvelous wonderful server.
10 mins rendering time is already good since it only uses integrated graphics.8:30
The 12900h is the better deal. But it won't hold my 4060 Low Profile. And why can't we have an i5? If I had to guess they can't make it a different size due to using that aluminum extrusion for a case. It would be amazing to see a 'full height' card fit. They aren't very far away from that. Or maybe an optional internal GaN PSU? I disagree on needing more room for a fan, just add a blower fan like the CPU has. I got one for my 8th Gen NUC from Amazon for $6-10
So maybe wait for the MS-02? I would love to see someone put it through it's paces as an AIO Proxmox server. virtualized pfsense/opnsense firewall, virtualized TruNAS with a passthrough 4 slot pcie nvme card. graphics passthrough for a Plex server. Maxed out with 96gb RAM. I want to be able to sell around 3 hardware devices in my house and replace it with this one…then, it would be worth it. If it can't be done, please let us know!
I would love to see someone get iGPU passthrough to work to a Proxmox VM (Linux guest) so the PCIe slot could be used for extra M.2 storage.
Would be way better if it supported bifurcation. But the CPU and lanes would be the bottleneck. On that note, I still haven't found a replacement for my SuperMicro SYS-5018R-M, which I have 3.
The I9 is just for marketing, an I3 or I5 would've been better and cost way less.
700$.
I am not familiar with the vPRO AMT. Is this browser based or do you need a client installed? I looked into Intel EMA and it seems like you would need a client and it is Windows only.
$850 for a cpu inside a box. Bring your own screen, etc. barrel jack adapter, no confirmed thunderbolt, they are basically selling you a massively overpriced CPU. it's the new way to keep CPU prices high, by removing everything else you need. Spend the money for a great Linux laptop, doesn't need all the processor bloat of windows, and you get a screen and keyboard.