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Is this the BEST Titanium Road Bike? Why I’d Choose it
Is this the BEST Titanium Road Bike? Why I’d Choose it Over Carbon
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4 reasons why I’d choose the BlackHeart titanium road bike (Road Ti) over a carbon road bike and 1 area where I feel carbon still has the upper hand. The BlackHeart Road Ti is a perfect blend of the classic titanium look with modern touches to create an absolutely fantastic bike.
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Love my Waltly custom Ti road bike. Looks great, rides great, and super comfortable even on really long days in the saddle. Would never replace it with a carbon bike.
dude, I 'challenge' you to review Blackheart's All Road Ti frameset set up as an everyday/versatile road bike (not a race bike) with fast, light wheel/tire package (30mm tires). this frameset straddles the line between gravel bike/endurance road bike/'classic' road bike. again , not a race bike, just a really good, versatile everyday all-rounder that is quick and well mannered and about 18.5 pounds ready to ride.
I believe the fork rake angle and top tube angle play its part also in absorbing vibrations etc. Back in the old steel bike days we had curved forks with large rake (no toes would touch your tyre etc) and I recall the ride was plush and handling good also but presumably this resulted in less stiffness and hence margjnally slower bike 🤷♂️
The whole argument about how ti rides so well is a prime example how cyclists regurgitate cliches without any research evidence or scientific data. Its fine you like how your frame look. Ti is durable material but theres nothing magical about it.
I feel the same way about my Ribble Titanium Endurance road bike.
Love titanium for road/gravel builds and happy it's getting some more praise here.
As a mechanical engineer who has been at road cycling for decades and owned a fair amount of all materials.
1. Carbon is king for ride, handling and speed, energy management aka stiffness and weight due to superior strength to stiffness relative to weight and most importantly, differential frame section modulus aka a carbon frame can be molded to a preferred shape unlike Titanium.
2. Aluminum is better than Ti because it can be made lighter and hydroformed unlike Ti.
I would much prefer a CAAD13 frameset to your Ti bike. Both have a carbon fiber fork btw.
3. Ti is heavier than Aluminum but slightly stronger and so weight ends up being close but doesn't ride better than carbon fiber or hydoformed Al. That is a fallacy. Also Ti doesn't ride better than steel. Steel ends up being heavier and why it is the least preferred material.
My opinion as a material expert who understands frame materials and most importantly, mechanical engineering which is the nexus of material yield strength, modulus of elasticity, material density and most important, moment of inertia aka a frames propensity to bend based upon its wall section and its localized tube section shape in cross section which can be varied for both carbon fiber and aluminum but not Ti and Steel…afore mentioned is why major bike brands, Specialized, Trek, Giant, Bianchi, BMC, Cannondale…all of them… have carbon fiber and Aluminum at the top of their list. If Ti was preferred, top bike brands would make Ti frames because they aren't shy about overcharging the public for their bicycles. They don't.
Boutique voodoo.
Glad to see Blackheart getting some press. Awesome bikes!
I 'll be getting a Ti road bike when I am 65, when being faster doesnt matter any more.
I own a Moots Vamoots CRD and is the best bike I have ever ridden.
I wanna know how much it weighed
They look good, they don't corrode, I want one (this is a fact 😅) but as others have said here, the thing about ride quality is more of an urban myth than a reality.
The differences people may have historically noticed won't have been down to the materials themselves, but the size, shape and wall-thickness of the tubing. If you made four frames of alu, steel, Ti and carbon all with identical size, shape and wall-thickness tubes in the same frame design you'd get near identical feedback as a rider from the frame. Difficulties in manufacturing splinter the materials somewhat, because it's hard to make a steel bike with anything except round tubing (give or take a few exceptions) and Ti is the same. This is ultimately what people are referring to when they praise the smooth ride quality of both materials, essentially thin round tubing is what they are in love with 😂.
Also, carbon fork, carbon or flexy seatpost, the angle of both giving varied amounts of fore/aft deflection relative to other bikes, good set of wheels and most importantly tyres will account for dang near all of the ride feel you're mentioning here
If blackheart made a compliant, fast, gorgeous bike, I think we can just congratulate them on an extremely well done job with all the important details that provide those qualities, rather than get all hand-wavey and mystical about the properties of Ti. That's a disservice to the bike builders
carbon is not "delicate"
Wow, that bike sounds a little unbelievable!!! Magical maybe?
+1 for a Ti Frame. These are lifetime frames, just upgrade components as they wear out. No paint to chip, just polish out the scuffs. Switched from carbon years ago and never looked back.
wonder why road racers only choose carbon frames, none of the teams in tour de france or any other race use titanium. Maybe pricing?
I think this is one big commercial
I cant agree that titanium absorbs bumps better than the carbon, because it flex less.
Ti ride quality as being compliant and comfortable is placebo and has been debunked before. Your dampening is coming mostly from your tires
Looks nice, didn't know Titanium was more expensive than carbon :/
Cant any material be tuned to exhibit whatever the desired ride quality is?
ti ride quality has been universally debunked.
Well done review, I have had mine since August, I’ve got about 2000 miles on it and I would echo your review pretty much verbatim!
Nice shot of Ridgecrest in Marin at 1:53 🙂 Such a beautiful road
Nice looking Ti bike, I would’ve preferred it had a 27.2 seat post but you can’t have everything I gather it’s electronic only as it has a integrated handlebars and headset not the greatest for running mechanical it can be done internally but depends on how big the hole are from the head tube to the down tube Interested to know if it works on this bike good review 👍😊