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External Graphics Cards are never worth it – ONEXGPU Review
External Graphics Cards are never worth it – ONEXGPU Review
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So you didnt try oculink. Smh.
Considering that the handheld itself is already more expensive than a Steam Deck, the price tag isn't a surprise. It's interesting but not fast enough.
Only dmb fak with black hole type wallet will ever buy this kind of product…aka ewaste
Ive had a specific experience using a gaming laptop that my PC doesn't have. The CPU limitations due to cooling can lead to less GPU usage, stutter, and other jank across the board. It's clearly due to the constant boosting and throttling of cores, and I haven't yet found a way to resolve it in all games.
The only way this makes practical sense is if you're incredibly limited on space, and a handheld is your primary machine due to other constraints on top of that, outside of cost. Let's say someone living in a super small apartment with a long public transit commute for work but making good enough money that the high cost won't matter to them. That's a bit niche, but situations like that do happen and it would be a nice thing to have for someone who's got almost no space, but plenty of money to pay the mini-sized tax and wants a super easy solution.
Hot take: Hand Helds that aren't fully upgradable are worthless buys in the first place. Seeing already rough numbers at launch doesn't really justify it for me personally. Within a few years, most owners will likely already be selling them off as they won't hardly be able to keep up with demanding titles.
The painful truth is that these aren't consoles (machines with one dedicated use case) they are full-blown windows PC's. The overhead and limited upgradability for a steep price puts me off from these at all. They will have maybe 3-4 years of "okay" use before only the lower end of system requirement games will function. Consoles of this size have games exclusively made to match the hardware they run on- but with PC games, they are planned with an array of specs in mind and have little to no assurance that they will work well on handhelds, as those are not the primary focus for devs.
If we had a handheld that had an upgradable CPU/GPU as well as a better, more cost effective eGPU solution for "docked modes" I'd be more enticed.
But as it stands right now, I just can't understand how one can truly justify the purchase.
It's a cool niche product. Very specifically, the eGPU is compact, reasonably capable, and integrated into a dock. That's very cool in combination with a handheld. But buying a Steam Deck and a separate gaming PC for the same money probably makes a lot more sense for most people. Just because the "ultimate PC" version of the Nintendo Switch is a cool idea doesn't mean it's something worth doing.
And a bulkier dock is probably no problem for most gamers who are interested in such a product. In which case, you might as well use a higher bandwidth connector and a flagship GPU instead. Adding $200-$400 to an RTX4090 or RX7900XTX for making it external isn't as hard to swallow as adding $200 to an entry-level GPU.
I'll finish the way I started: It's a cool niche product. I like it, but I'm unlikely to buy it.
A thunderbolt dock will set you back about 200, an nvme enclosure about 100, and an external thunderbolt enclosure about 300. Plus you have to buy the video card which could add way too much. But this one x unit still doesn’t make practical sense. The tech is changing too quickly. Gigabit Ethernet on a dock? 2.5gb is easy to implement today between built in on most mini pc’s and TB4 to 2.5gb adapters on Amazon. A single nvme, but it’s limited to 4tb? I saw a review of a mini pc with 3 nvme slots all rated to 8 tb! Plus the pc had occulink support. So enjoy Reasonable Gaming TM on your handheld or go Xbox controller and a gaming/mini pc hooked up to your big screen.
Ooof, checked out of curiosity the egpu and it’s 980 euro… am I glad it can’t even work with the Steam Deck lmao.
I still love the idea, my GPD WinMax 2 won't even play starfield because I got the 6800u version earlier on. I use it while at work, because I'm waiting for my work to show up for 10 to 15 minutes at a time, and I'm also going to school for cybersecurity during those breaks too. I think if I could get something like this to pipe back into my display, but just boost performance, I'd actually get this, or the G1.
I ended up getting an eGPU because I needed a pen-compatible 2-in-1 at the time (notetaking at uni), and none of the business class models had a dedicated GPU. It served its purpose at the time, but in hindsight, I should've gone the other way around – a mobile workstation and a pen display. I would've even got upgradable RAM, and could've probably considered going AMD too.
With that being said, I bought my Sonnet eGPU off Marketplace for like AU$200 (~US$130) and used a spare R9 270X.
so we can collect our bile like colostomy skins. cs GOOOO lol
what abut video editing on the eGPU? 😀
Dear sir, pardon my negative thinking, but the title "never worth it" strikes me as clickbaity. There are some other eGPU solutions that suit the use cases of different people. To those people (including me), it definitely is worth it.
To me the biggest issue with these handhelds is that the link between one and an external GPU is just not fast enough and the gear to use it is too expensive. If you could get something like the performance of an 8x PCIE connection and the price for a bare dock (as in one that you can install your own graphics card into) under the $250 mark I could see it making sense for a lot of people but a $600 – $800 unit based on a mid range mobile GPU that can't be upgraded is not even worth considering.
The only valid point for eGPU is docked Ultrabooks for work IMO.
That way a company IT can buy everyone the same laptop ( ultrabook with a rather powerful CPU) + dock so administration will be easy.
But if someone needs to do GPU-heavy work (e.g. CAD / 3D-modelling) he can get a better monitor and the eGPU dock.
clean setup and the docks can be upgraded separately from the laptops.
I can't see a need for the external GPU to exist, for the price of it and the handheld you could easily get a desktop PC/laptop with the same or better performance plus the handheld itself.
handheld for on the go gaming and the laptop for at home gaming, it baffles me.
edit: also ouch at starfield still being an unoptimized mess, you shouldn't need FSR in this day and age unless your components can't handle the game… that being said helldivers 2 looks better than starfield and plays better so starfield has no reason to run as bad as it does.
This has been my thought when the prices for these egpus were announced… i insted got an adt egpu board from ali express for under 100usd and then bought a second hand 3070… use it to desktop my legion go…
I mean, eGPUs will always cost extra, but sponsored by a "cloud gaming" company? Do you really want to be shouting conflict of interest that loud?
It's hard to take this video seriously when it includes an advertisement for online gaming then showcase an external graphics card that is not being limited by the graphics card but by the USBC interface.
Good point about Minisforum HX99G or HX100G. For like 700-800 euros you get the whole mini pc combo, amazing cpu and directly linked gpu without thunderbolt loss. To think that the egpu like this costs 900 euros is a bit ridiculous. I don't believe the thunderbolt/oculink controller should cost that much. The 330w gan psus go for around a 100. If it was more like 400-500 for the specs it would make more sense. The whole egpu market would become more popular if only they weren't so out of reach with cost.
I love the idea, but I'd much rather see cheap solution for external graphics enclosure and before someone comments, no 300e enclosures aren't good in value imo. I don't even have need for such, but with them I could begin to consider changing from desktop to laptop in my main rig. That being said I think I'll keep building PC's for max performance and use consoles for more random gaming. I got Steamdeck and I love it for older titles/emulation cause its versatility in controls. But even in handheld systems I won't be going for those really expensive models as they never can't deliver enough gaming experience and performance. As usual I think some middle ground between devices can usually deliver best for the money. Like consoles are great solution for many gamers, but still diehard gamer imo should have that Steamdeck or even fairly basic computer to enjoy stuff from ie. GOG for best value.
The driving game might be struggle bussing it because of PCIe bandwidth. Seems to be the only meaningful difference and I could see the game offloading some compute. Or the drivers being stupid with some advanced feature they're using.
All i want is a cheap case to plug a PSU and GPU into that i already own anyway, just an aluminum box, with screw holes for a 120 or 144mm fan… 50 to 75 Euro, tops, nothing fancy.
With a universal "it just works" connector that i can plug into Steam Deck 2, or maybe even into my main gaming PC, or into my HTPC in the living room depending on what needs full GPU power for gaming at the moment.
For the moment i still got my old EVGA GTX1080 (unused in a box) and it beats the Steam Deck APU in performance no question, lets just put that thing in a case and get some use out of it again. …but no, they won't let me. Cases like that cost 300-ish bucks because they are so niche, which is ridiculous, they come with a connector that isn't present on the Steam Deck and is hit and miss on other devices as well.
Instead they want to sell overpriced gimmicky underpowered Laptop GPUs in a case where it can't even be upgraded, only be replaced by the next one.
Does discrete GPU work with Android phones?
Oh yea you are basically paying a premium for a "portable" egpu. The only use case is traveling, where you want a handheld or thin and light laptop as well as gaming in the hotel.
My experience with my zenbook flip and the GPD G1 is good, though there a couple of points to make:
Thunderbolt has its limits, so higher resolutions or generating lots more information like cars can saturate this.
Oculink is better than Thunderbolt for the eGPU, so if you wan to do this get a device with Oculink
Noise, esp if you choose to go at 120w. I find 100w is fine and there is little gain going to 120w. The GPD G1 sounds like airflow rather than a spinning fan, so while audible it is not annoying.
Lossless Scaling (on steam) works well adding scaling and frame gen to games that don't have it. Also using it to get double framegen on Starfield works quite well to make it playable.
could you show us the cheapest usable external gpu setup you can come up with? just for the lols
nice
I was lucky, got a Gigabyte GPU enclosure (that originally had a 1070 in it), with an RTX 3060Ti for 300€. Sold the GPU for around the same price so the enclosure was technically free.
it's got a 450W gold flex PSU in it so it can pretty much run most of the GPUs, tho size wise it's quite limiting, but if you disassemble it, it's fine in the end.
Do you happen to know how it performs hooked up to your WIN MAX?