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Let’s Build Another Storage Server!
Let’s Build Another Storage Server!
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“Greg Salazar”
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I’ve a need for another storage server… so let’s build one! I’m starting to get the hang of this!
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A question. Could you have used a SAS to SAS cable and went to a pcie card? I honestly am asking because I have no idea if they exist. seems like you'd get more speed that way if it worked. Or call Wendell and ask him!
Greg and not turning on power strips. Name a more memorable couple.
Very cool I might just get into a little sever to to store my clips and videos.
Would recommend to pass through the hard drives or better the controller – Even better and I even more recommend it: Run TrueNAS bare metal. You can still visualize with TrueNAS (Docker) – Also, take look at ZFS (RAID-Z2)
Do not use TrueNAS with virtual disks. It will result in loss of features in TrueNAS, this is because of how ZFS works. I have had nothing but trouble when i tried TrueNAS/FreeNAS with virtual disks on long run, when passing trough entine storage adapter to TrueNAS everything changed, much more stable and feature rich TrueNAS installation
16:39 why not just get PCI-E SAS controller?
love server content!
Just tore out my company's datacenter equipment today, we merged everything with AWS. It's nice to see this in a home application!
somebody needs to stop this man he won't stop making servers until he fills that server rack then he will buy another one
what cpu should i get for my new budget build i5 12400f or r5 5500? what performs better
Dude you remind me of a Saudi youtuber his channel is called Rwaya 😅
A fun project that I think you'd enjoy is getting jellyfin/plex working in a docker VM. Lots of fun stuff to dig into with transcoding and GPU/hardware passthrough that I find super fun.
I am seeing more comments about passing your drives individually to TruNAS, THAT is correct. Basically your CURRENT configuration in this video is your ZFS pool is in Proxmox then passed it through to your storage OS… this is not really optimal. BUT we are learning. ALL good. You COULD run your ZFS pool directly in proxmox and forget TruNAS and that WILL work, but TruNAS is better for managing a ZFS pool AND your share (Be it SMB or other). Proxmox is the better hypervisor with SOME storage management, TruNAS is the storageOS with even it's OWN hypervisor capabilities. The only time I would configure a ZFS pool in Proxmox itself is for OS storage or VIRTUAL DISKS for VMs preferably on SSDs. For a NAS, you want your individual drives to pass to TurNAS, Unraid, or any other "preferred" storage OS… keep in mind if you choose windows storage spaces… you may get bullied on the internet but that's ok… I still appreciate you. P.S. Someone also said use TruNAS bare metal? That is also an option and will work just fine. Not everything has to be a proxmox node… even if it does look pretty on the management screen. There are other dashboards you could use to aggregate your system statuses… I am aware of them, but I am not qualified to comment on them. Do your research.
I do not know if the iron wolfs are cheaper there but it is generally better to use Enterprise drives like the Seagate Exos they are usually cheaper. They also have a longer lifespan.
Silverstone RM21-308 provides 8 hot swap bays for a few dollars more
Link to the correct SATA to SAS cable would be appreciated
UPS is always at the bottom of a rack, that's how we have ours here that deal with ours on an enterprise config center level.
Nice to know that board will take double sided ssds.
Hi Greg. Everything I needed to know about something I would never own. I'll be waiting for Saturday to come. I would like you to produce a video showing what happens when CORSAIR iCUE components like the software and/or controllers fail. My PC is useless since I no longer have power to my fans and AIO pump. I get flashing RED lights informing me that I have an overheating problem, which causes my PC to shut down automatically. Since I cannot boot WIN 11, I cannot do anything concerning the software. I'm still waiting to receive an RMA. Is there anything I can do in the meantime to solve my problem? I do have a backup PC if that would help.
Nice rack! Giggity. For real though, it's looking great! Just built my first NAS a few months back and was pretty surprised at how easy it was to get it set up with TrueNAS. I just used an old pc with some SAS drives from old servers. Set it up with RAIDz because of the old drives. Wanted to be able to swap them if I had a failure. Thanks for the video!
What are servers even used for?
I wish I could build a server. A proper server with real server hardware. Unfortunately I have only ever been able to justify one PC consumer level type server, as a natural progression of my own main gaming PC upgrades. Whatever parts left over, i'm able to have and maintain a second machine with older hardware and use it to run Debian… over the years it's gotten different roles, but mostly it's just hosting my web page, tor relay, some crypto experiments in mining (not really generating any usable currency at the end of the month, but fun to explore), and various game servers and whatever else…. but lately I got a handle on ZFS and NAS technologies. I keep it pretty basic in config though, all base tools and software, nothing bloated or frontends or anything extra. I don't use TrueNAS or any specialized software of that nature. I don't see the purpose. I just do it all by hand. Just so long as I can access files from another machine over the network.
Too late my friend. I have built 6 servers after I purchased a 2-bay Terramaster then had to buy a 4-bay Terramaster when space filled up. I then built my next one and it was so large and efficient that I got hooked on making it bigger, adding a GPU for transcoding, and other bells and whistles. I have now built a total of 6 versions of my original build and each time, it gets a bit better. I am now building one for my son to store his games on and I put it in an Antec Silent Case with 8 bays in a mid-tower and it turned out great. He has 96Tb of space to store his games and plenty of redundancy if one or two of the drives fail.
Think i saw Jayztwocent use a similar case for a server build.
He went with 80mm noctua fans for less noise and more fresh air.
Loving the vid, looking forward to more 😀
why? consumer grade motherboard when there're cheap small business server boards that even support consumer Ryzen CPU/ecc memory. also, if you already have compute vm platform why complicate things and install proxmox as additional layer? just install truenas scale on bare metal if this is dedicated nas.
Welcome to the other side my friend. I think that there is a big home lab on the way. 😀
Love these videos. Built my own server and homelab a long time ago but I need to upgrade so these videos come in handy.
I was looking forward to another short about how to tighten a screw.
With all the hardware that's in this, you are well over 1,200. I love the idea of building your own, but in the server space, it really doesn't make that much sense. You could have gotten a Dell r240, or even an r740, for a lot less. It's also likely that you would have gotten an HBA with whatever server you purchased because they are often fitted with them on original purchase. I just bought a Dell r240 for under $400, and then another $200 to upgrade the processor and RAM. That makes it a 1U, 4×3.5 hot swap chassis with 64gb if ram, and a 6c/12t cpu at 4.7ghz. It has enough room for an hba, plus a 10 gig nic. Plus it still has a spare pcie slot for something else should I choose. It may be worth looking at a used server.
Unraid!
Rather than use a backwards Breakout cable, you should just get a cheap hba like a Dell h330. And also means you don't have to rely on potentially janky SATA setups on motherboards.
As someone who worked server support, I try to sway away from calling drives a backup to another even in a mirror because of my time working at a company that rhymes with bell. RAID IS NOT A BACKUP…just redundancy. great video!!
I have TrueNAS installed straight on my server. What are the benefits for using Proxmox first please?
A couple notes from experience as a layperson in networking. First: I never understood the need for power strips with switches in network applications. Too much potential for impolite power shutdowns, accidentally turning off a switch etc. Your server has a power switch on it, use that instead. Second: Consider casters and a closed cabinet instead of the open rack for a residential space. The doors are removable for easy access or if cooling is an issue, but closing it up can really reduce the noise floor. The casters make it easy to pull the whole shebang out for access to the rear, just leave enough cable to do so. In my case I let the cables develop a natural coil so that when I pushed the cabinet back they tended to coil together as a unit, a few velcro straps kept the cables together. Third: Good call on leaving the UPS at the bottom and the heavy servers just above, that provides better stability of the unit. Fourth: Consider ventilated blank panels to fill in the spaces if airflow is an issue. They look good but still allow for air movement as needed. I prefer to fill in the blanks as well!
According to (at least) Razer, MOLEX delivers more power than SATA. That’s probably why your HDD-thing came with molex.
That is at least what they are telling us when we ask why their argb-controller came with molex instead of sata.
Day 11 of asking Greg to build in the ROG Z11 BUT with a micro ATX motherboard
Uk electricity bills have turned me off from home servers, I built a tiny low power nas but literally unplug everything these days!
Do not, I repeat .. DO NOT, virtualize the storage for TrueNAS – the drives must be passed through to TrueNAS to administer, otherwise there will be trouble when a drive fails; including the storage for the TrueNAS boot
Either that or do the storage in PROXMOX
Why do you run Truenas under Proxmox? Wouldn't Proxmox handle all of the storage presentation itself? Or if you like Truenas, it can run standalone also, correct?
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