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Minisforum MS-01: The Ultimate Mini Home Server (I Installed

Minisforum MS-01: The Ultimate Mini Home Server (I Installed Proxmox & VMs!)

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  1. This seems like lower power aside if you poulate the 3x m.2 and slap a pcie m.2 card into the slot instead of a m.2 nas. Was looking at buying a m.2 nas most likely will end up buying this instead lol

  2. I'm going to set mine up (still waiting) with 1TB, 2TB and 4TB drives in the fastest to slowest slots in that order. 1TB will be for Proxmox ZFS with local VM/CT storage, the 2TB will be for Ceph and the 4TB PCIe3x2 will be for Proxmox Backup Server in a CT using a ZFS mount point. I'll eventually have 3x MS-01 all configured the same, plus other misc NAS in the cluster for extra Ceph storage and general redundancy.

  3. Could definitely see myself replacing my 10 year old Intel NUC with this. Install Ubuntu and docker, Jellyfin, Nextcloud, all the arrs, mount my Synology shares for extra storage.

  4. I ordered an MS-01 myself at the end of January. Unfortunately, the device has still not been delivered. It is planned that this mini PC will replace my main computer, and I hope that it will be efficient and not too loud. I have purchased an Oculink external interface card (4x, unfortunately there is no 8x yet) for the PCIe slot. This will allow me to connect either additional SPF+ NICs or even an external graphics card.

  5. Could be a nas with two 8 bay usbc direct attached storage units 🙂
    It is what you can dream up.
    Even 8 bays with 14tb drives and snapraid/mergerfs could give 84tb storage (Raid 6)

  6. Personally i would advice against buying minis pcs and such for servers. I made this mistake my self for what i just wanted as a router.
    Once you get the server bug you will want to upgrade the server, this will be very hard with these pcs. Instead build a normal computer for server use, it's cheaper and much easier to upgrade.

    Just my opinion! 😉

  7. I have an aging 30TB NAS running freenas-truenas that I will replace sooner than later.
    Never ran any VMs or apps on it. Only for storage.
    Curious to know what people are using home servers for. Am I missing out? Or is it stuff I don't need or care about…

  8. I think I actually would use this for NAS: 3 SSD slots feels like enough for just a home server with a small share: I think putting a couple of 4 tb slower m.2 drives there would be enough for what I'd use my NAS for: storing anything that I can't really stream reliably (Mostly old shows and movies) and to have something to watch during internet outages (They don't happen often but when they happen, I rather have something to watch than nothing to do)

    Main I'd use for perhaps proxmox but I actually think I would just use TrueNas Scale as I probably don't need very fancy passthrough VMs or anything like that so mostly container stuff for basic services (Stuff like Piehole, Plex, etc.)

    Now my caveat is that while I like the form factor, I feel I'd be paying way too much for a lot more CPU than I need: I want something that's stronger than a Raspberry Pi but I honestly don't think I need this much connectivity and CPU, just wish it was easier to find stuff that came with multiple etherner ports and multiple M.2 slots which isn't super common.

  9. I would probably put my ASUS 4x NMVE expander in it even though it can only bifurcate the 8 lanes to 4×4 as my current motherboard cannot bifurcate.

    I would use the U.2 for an Optane drive I got and run SAP HANA database on it…

    And I'd use one of the network cards to go to a Proxmox-only network for HA and Ceph and the others for 'normal' LAN….

  10. At the start of the video: I'm already considering picking one of these up as a Proxmox host, and if I did that, I would probably spin up a Debian VM as a Docker host, most likely with PCIe passthrough for one of the NICs and the NVME drive(s) used for VMs.

    After the video: Same.

    I will however explain where I am now from a home server standpoing and ask for your input. I ended up backing the 8-bay UGreen NAS during the 2 day period you could get it for 40% off, figuring I could cancel the pledge without any harm if I decided not to back it. But I'd be putting TrueNAS [Scale] on it anyway, and the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking that saving about $500 is not worth losing ECC support and preferably IPMI as well, so I'm fairly sure at this point I'm going to cancel and just build my own.

    The first dilemma is one versus multiple machines. Should I:
    1. Build a NAS, put Proxmox on it, and use PCIe passthrough to pass through the SATA controller and a NIC to a TrueNAS [Scale] VM
    2. Build a NAS, put TrueNAS [Scale] on it, and buy the MS-01 to use as a separate Proxmox device and have it use the ZFS shares via NFS? Cost isn't much of a factor for me in the long term (though it might be in the short term, as I could certainly afford a MS-01 and a few NVMe drives much sooner than I could afford 8 high capacity Iron Wolf Pro drives and the cost of a NAS build on top of that). I'm more wondering about flexibility, performance, annoyance, etc.

    The second dilemma is what to do hardware wise, as everything seems like a compromise in one way or another unless I put in a rack:
    1. The ASRock IMB-X1314 is a microATX board that will fit in a nice hotswap NAS chassis like the SilverStone CS382, but while it supports ECC, it lacks IPMI.
    2. The Supermicro MBD-X13SAE-F is a full ATX board that has ECC and IPMI, but since it's full ATX, it won't fit in most hotswap NAS chassis (the SilverStone CS380 would fit it, but it's got an antiquated design and the 382 is better in every way but this), so I'd either have to use a case without hotswap like the Fractal Design Meshify 2 [XL], or make room for a rack and a rack chassis.
    3. Stick with the UGreen, which means no ECC support for ZFS, which is probably bad, plus their software seems pretty shit at the moment and it seems like it would be more annoying to take it apart and swap the drive to put TrueNAS [Scale] on it than it would to just build one.

    I appreciate what you do, particularly videos like your last two, so thanks regardless.

  11. Try Frigate and add some 4k and HD cameras and see how that will push your power up , a was using a maxed out Deskmini 5700g , but moved to a mini atx so I could add a 10gbt card , but found you use one of the m.2 slots for a 10gbt port .
    Proxmox is so nice that you can run tons of services and still be at under 10% cpu.

  12. This with an arc a310 for some av1 memes would be a really nice solution to replacing a bunch of giant servers I have kicking around. Moving soon and moving all of those might actually kill me.

  13. definitely install Proxmox on slower nvme drive, keep fastest drive(s) for VMs for sure,
    option for that PCIe slot would be Sonnet nvme card, doesn't need bifurcation and there's either 4x or 8x m.2 nvme models to pick, and doesn't need full x16 slot
    or, empty PCIe 5.0 slot could be used for AI accelerator card later 😉

  14. I gave up on mod tower pc's, years ago. Got into mini pc's,right now i got AsRock DeskMini X300,with 5600G. For my needs,mostly browsing,tv shows,movies,light office,its blazing fast. Also the 2 o line games i play, FPS is on max. So,mini pc's are awesome!. Space saving is also a huge plus!

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