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Installing TrueNAS on a NAS Appliance – What could go
Installing TrueNAS on a NAS Appliance – What could go wrong?
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Small Business NAS Appliances. Bad hardware, bad software, but one of those can be fixed! At least, that’s what I was hoping for….
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why do you want to put truenas on a synology? The ability to only run dsm is an asset, no not a disadvantage. And why do you glorify alcohol on your channel?
Question, Wouldn't a Jonsbo N3 case with the I9 Erying be a decent Nas in the 4 to 500 dollar range with a decent HBA?
I'd love to see testing on this and it'd be an open source platform.
I'm actually using a 4bay Datto SB2000 i got at an e-cycler. Swapped out the OS drive with SSD I had and loaded Windows Server on it no issue. Should be able to load TruNas no issue as well.
I wonder if the bios reset issue is related to a jumper on the board, or maybe a dead CMOS battery?
TrueNAS does work on the T6-423, I have installed both Core and Scale. I ran into the issue of getting it to boot, but once you remove the internal USB drive with the TOS bootloader, it has no choice but to boot from the NVME. I have my boot order set to USB –> NVME (rest disabled) and it work flawlessly. I can pop a USB drive in at anytime to one of the external USB ports and boot from it without going in to the BIOS. Heck, I even installed Windows just to see if it would, and it did. I have (6) 4TB drives installed in RAIDZ2 and it is working well so far. Just may keep it this way as a permanent setup.
it's just a simple usb used for storage to hold the operating system on the other side of the motherboard, take that out and you don't have that problem anymore.
I've tooled around with other OSes on Qnap devices. At least in my limited experience, I haven't run into any of these lock-in practices — but they do make it fairly easy to restore the original OS, if that's what you want.
hi, have you found a solution? I also have the T6 and can't save the NVME permanently. Very annoying.
Terramaster now allows full acces they even made a bios update for this (no TOS only) … now running a F4-423 with proxmox (Tried all the usual suspects Truenas, OMV, Xpenology) + Madam for RAID + cockpit … smooth as butter ….. ymmv
9:06 right channel stereo sound is amazing
Recent Asustor appliance are really open, is quite easy installing trends scale on it. We use it two flashstor 12 in production environment right now running truenas.
I have stopped using Off-The-Shelf appliances you mentionned two examples for this particular good reason: Once the embedded software goes EOL, you're stuck with that version, and you cannot hope for the manufacturers to release any further updates, nor can you expect to be owner of an open x86-64 system that you can customize to your needs. That's just 8U77$'!+ at its best. IMHO assembling a DIY server running a chosen suitable OS and its underlying software always works best in regarding long-term support. Plus, it doesn't cost an extra Dollar as most OS Server software is Open-source and part of the GNU licence. The European Union should also enforce a certain degree of reusability and recycling of these NAS appliances to shimmer down landfill waste accumuling on a daily basis. They should be designed more user-friendly to a new lease on life.
Love the intro 😂
😅try ugreen dx4600
Pretty sure you just need to delete internal usb drive (if any like in other models) so it will boot from NVMe
YOu can on Qnap
I had a WD-DX4000 that behaved that way as well. I ended up just dropping an autoexec.nsh in the EFI partition that hijacked the default boot option to chainload GRUB instead and run my Debian install. But, as another comment here stated, look for pads labeled for a CMOS clear jumper — I bet they're soldered.
This kind of hardware locking always ticks me off!
When are we going to stop using the slow Sata and SAS buses and just use nvme via a M. 2 or pci slot?
Asustor products work with truenas and they even have instructions!
There is a bios update that fixes the boot priority issues for the terramaster that came out in January. I can't find an official link but one of the admins put it up on their forums so you can find it if you look for it.
Edit: too busy/lazy to reboot my server for the bios details but unraid is reading it as American Megatrends International, LLC., Version 5.19
BIOS dated: Mon 9 Jan 2023
If you dont need tech support Asusstor makes really good nases for affordable prices. It is Asus and has all the short comings of Asus (Except installing windows on to everything) it is completly unlocked tho. (Atleast where i live and in North america (LTT VIDEO testing sponsers asuses support was not even bad it is was completly unacceptable and all of the mb CPU blowing up fiasca))
This went about as well as I expected. I am disappointed we can't have more control over these type of devices but I have accepted the fact that if you want any control need a proper PC or server type setup.
I was definitely considering this, 100% with the thought that eventually I would pop in a hypervisor and an open source nas. I'm so glad you saved me $$
Best intro i ve ever seen on YT 😂
A generic MB is created for it… 🤔
This onw of the reasons why I prefer DIY/CUSTOM made SERVER-NAS instead of theses….. 😐😐😐
Sounds like the bios enters no-write mode – and setting upon boot stores in memory that gets flushed upon restart. Poke all the jumpers/headers?
This is the very reason I just purchased all the computer parts for a pc build from microcenter that was about the same price as a off the shelf NAS. I got a way better computer for my money, you have to purchase all your drives separately for both "solutions". Truenas or unraid is simple to install and easy to configure. Just build your own NAS!
Excellent.
How about a video on BIOS editing?
Guess I'm sticking to 2nd hand severs with front load bays and DIY builds with ebay supermicro mobos. Darn. Lol.
I have turned my back on Synology and all other brands which make such NAS years ago. I tried what you tried years ago and found no way. Still funny that they changed nothing since then. 😀
Linus has an Investment in an Startup wanting to bring easy to use NAS (Software) to the Market – I am very interested how that will tourn out.
Also: I hate those stupid little NAS Boxes. They generally underperform and are to expensive. If you buy a reasonably suited Case (I used to have a Fractal Node 302 for that) and an i3 on an ITX Board – you're generally better off – and have space for much more disks, if you go with an big enough case. Throw in a cheap HBA from eBay and the sky's the limit.
Barely cost you as much as a 4-6 Bay Ready-to-go NAS, and thanks to TrueNAS way more functionality (but you need to invest a bit more time, as using that is not as easy to use as those ready made boxes)
I bought a T6-423 last week and installed TrueNAS on it. I ran into this boot issue as well, but there is a manual to solve this in the Terramaster Forum. It is basically a bios update, some shell commands and a change in a new bios setting entry. Afterwards it did not reset the boot settings again. The included script file did not run the bios update, but a look into the script file provided the command to execute the bios update manually solved that issue.
This sort of shenanigans by the RTR NAS box makers just gives more reason to buy a cheap old X86 board/CPU/RAM combo (say, X79 or X99), toss it in a super tower of 3.5" drive bays, and toss TrueNAS on the thing after loading with 16TB+ drives and a 10gbps NIC, if you want a lot of at-home storage on a LAN.
A while back I tried using an old Celeron SOC based lian li NAS box as well, a NAS of all things… It did install TureNAS, and even recognized the drives that were installed. Then it all went to shit.
A SINGLE 10gb file transfer brought the whole thing to it's knees. I tried non-raid, raid-1, and raid-0 all failed miserably. I even maxed out it's supported SODIM capacity. Nothing fixed it.
Eventually I moved to rack mounting an old 4th gen i5 desktop in a 2U case, stuffed it full of drives and never looked back. This video feels like validation to that choice.
locked down bootloader..
You just need to pull the USB thumbdrive inside the Terramaster and it falls back to NVME boot as configered in BIOS.
To think how I still run TrueNas on my 10+ y/o HP Microserver… 😛
The key word that they hide behind is 'appliance', invented specifically to give them ability to reject any reasonable client request and requirement on the basis of "not supported".
The only cure is not to vote with your choice of such product.
TrueNAS folks profess this corporate disorder themselves.
I'm running that exact NAS. Did you disconnect the internal USB drive? I replaced it with USB->SATA and boot TrueNAS off that with optane cache NVMEs.
I’ll echo the QNAP. I’ve been running TrueNAS Scale on it for some time now. No problems booting/rebooting. Seems to be “just a PC”
That Glenlivet Caribbean Reserve is one of my favorite scotches!
Do you try to change or put off usb drive, which at opposite side of motherboard?
Dumb idea, create a tiny Truenas Scale/core boot disk (Whatever the size of the terramaster eMMC is), then clone that to the built-in eMMC using clonezilla or something similar. Obviously take a backup of the eMMC before doing so to ensure you don't brick the device, but if that eMMC is visable to clonezilla (I didn't see it in the Truenas installer…), it COULD work.
Do this with the Asustore units & unraid also. I did a Terramaster f4-423 with Unraid.Runs fairly well