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Update Breaks EVERYTHING

Update Breaks EVERYTHING

#Update #Breaks

“Titus Tech Talk”

KDE 6 and Wayland hate me.

Chapters:
00:00:00 – Updating Everything
00:07:18 – Terminals
00:09:51 – nVidia NVK
00:12:28 – Updating Begins
00:18:36 – Everything Broke
00:23:57 – Still Broken
00:40:13 – Rollback
00:48:52 – Wayland Rant
00:52:18 – RPM-OSTREE Layering X11
01:09:21 -…

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  1. I don't know why they made wayland the default for plasma 6 when window shading doesn't even work on plasma wayland, that bug was reported 7 years ago and they still haven't fixed it, but I guess that's kde for you, they're more focused on adding features than fixing bugs.

  2. I have not had a single successful Plasma 5 to 6 upgrade – had to do a fresh install every time, including on Arch. After the fresh install everything went fine, but there doesn't seem to be a successful upgrade path so far.

  3. I tryed to install this on a laptop. It decided some place a long the way to show everything in portrait mode for the deslpay. made it tuff to install. It did not find the Wi-FI. I gave up and used Nobara. It worked fine.

  4. Since I had to hand over my gamingroom to my newborn… I've used my full on gaming rig in the living room on my tv like a "console" with windows… which everyone knows sucks (keyboard / mouse) on couch
    Tested bazzite hoping I could use it like a real convenient console with the gaming mode (gamescope) but it just seem to work in desktop mode. Does gamescope / gaming mode only work on a handheld?
    Does anyone know?

    Tested bazzite stable… bazzite deck stable… and hints most welcome

  5. I upgraded from Bazzite 2.5 based on Fedora 39 to Bazzite 3.0 based on Fedora 40 with no issues at all. And this is the Nvidia version on a hybrid Nvidia-AMD laptop.

  6. You can break NixOS. I've done it before. You just have to use the unstable channel lol (and apparently switch between multiple desktop environments without running the garbage collector in between). TBH, I don't understand why NixOS has an unstable channel or what is actually unstable about it.

    Oh I should mention I switched to the unstable channel to update to KDE 6 on NixOS and it broke Grub or something because trying to switch to an iteration that had cinnamon installed made it upset just as much as trying to boot into KDE 6

  7. I use Wayland with Fedora (Gnome) and before with Ubuntu since about 3 years. With 6900XT, 7900 XTX, Intel iGPU and it works fine for the most time (screen sharing with chrome can lead to a crash). But besides that I am happy with it. It strange there are that many people with issues.

  8. Still pretty sure the issue is synergy – both they and barrier don't support wayland. It's about the only thing stopping me changing my playbox VM over to a KDE 6 distro.

  9. If it's any consolation… I was laughing at your update misfortune, while updating Ubuntu 20.04 LTS server, fully supported for another year. When it killed my LXD from making a socket connection. Something about a cgroup / cgroup2 issue. LXD with ZFS being this servers only function. LXD installed via Snap as well. I suspect a breaking change to the kernel slipped through. Attempted a previous kernel at grub2 boot only for it to still fail. Ended up upgrading the release to 22.04 and then everything started working. Nothing weird, all Ubuntu all the time. I didn't have time to debug the root cause.

    Considering redoing this server with NixOS as Ubuntu w/LXD have let me down. Guess their takeover of LXD and the loss of some top tier talent has resulted in breaking changes.

  10. I have 4 PCs (2 Desktops, 2 laptops) of various specs ranging within the decade from 2006 all the way up to 2023 hardware-wise and KDE on Arch has never had an single issue so far, somehow, how am i this lucky, no idea.

  11. KDE 6 is what drove me to Debian from being a Daily Driver Arch user for 2 years now. It'll improve over time, but for now I'll stick with Plasma 5 to get work done.

  12. I figured out how to build my own Bazzite image. Forked the official repo, changed the rpm packages and flatpaks I wanted installed and had to change the github action to rclone to my server.

    I was thinking of doing the same to Aurora.

  13. In a nutshell NVK can run DX9/10 games with playable performance, DX11 with bad performance, and DX12 not at all. NVK + Zink is significantly better than the old Nouveau OpenGL. Don't try to use it on anything older than a 16/20 series card.

  14. Auto BIOS update seems a common OEM thing. Bought a few HP mini PCs recently and Windows 10 also just downloaded UEFI and installed updates for the things.
    I guess with the amount of silicon level and BIOS level security issues we have recently, it is the thing to do, especially in the corporate space.

  15. Plasma 6 doesn't force wayland, that's a Fedora decision. KDE just made waylaed the default (and distros can choose to change that if they want).

    Remember, Fedora is basically a bleeding edge distro, you git the new tech stacks fast and they well deprecate the old ones fast.

    Also I've been running plasma 6 on wayland since day 1 and it's been as stable as 5.27 (and more stable than on 5.27 on x11 was funny enough).

  16. An update Broke Arch, it get stuck on boot with no keyboard/mouse like the USB ports aren't initializing (led lights not coming on being the indicator), good thing it saves backups, I loaded one of those and it came back.

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