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Is the Raspberry Pi5 the better Proxmox Server?
Is the Raspberry Pi5 the better Proxmox Server?
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“Andreas Spiess”
When I proposed to leave the Raspberry Pi for home server applications, many viewers wrote that Proxmox is now also available on the Pi. The Raspberry Pi 5 is much faster than the Pi4, it comes with 8GB of RAM and, with its low power consumption, should be a perfect fit for a Proxmox server. So,…
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Why would you specifically want Rasperry OS inside a VM? It's just customized Debian for the Raspberry hardware, but inside a VM, it doesn't have any Raspberry hardware, so…that kinda makes it redundant.
Cool that you have the opportunity to install Proxmox on the RPi5. It could be useful for me. Instead of me having x number of SD cards with x operative systems, I can have them all together in Proxmox with the opportunity to snapshot and take backup of the VMs to my NAS.
I bought a USB C to Lenovo power connector, so I could connect my Lenovo SFF M700 Tiny to my power adapter and powerbank. This gave me the feeling of having a Raspberry Pi, but more powerful. It requires a power adapter and powerbank supporting 20V and 3.25A. With all the GaN power adapters out there, it is possible to find one supporting 20V.
3:46 I get what you are saying. Youtubers show the installation process and that is possible to install but they dont actually make any use of it down the road to see if its actually usable when adding software. (this goes for many things not just proxmox on a pi). That is why i like your content and i appreciate your time and effort making these videos
Thank you for spreading your crystallized knowledge
N100 NUC. WAY better for proxmox, and you can get it almost the same form factor in the right configuration
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Did you try openwrt? Its for arm devices.
Very helpful infos as always. Finally a good explanation on Proxmox running on a pi 5. I have to give it a try. Many Thanks!
in the process of upgrading a pi3 running HAOS to a pi5 but I know its overpowered. Is it easy to run HA as a container or VM and make the usb and bluetooth on the PI 5 available for pass thru? I need them for the wireless zigbee and zwave dongles.
I think the Rpi5 is quite a bad deal compared with OrangePI 5/5 plus based on rockchip. First of all for heavy loads you can buy enough ram. Second is on-board faster NVM-E without dongles. Third it is actually WAY better in every single metric than the rpi5… And the price is almost the same. Anyway… neither of those are good hosts for virtual machines nor will be in the near future.
please use virtio and don't leave the default scsi and e1000 drivers…
Also the verdict is that you don't understand the difference between an iso and a disk image.
I migrated everything to a i7-1360P intel nuc, 64gb running proxmox and it is so over kill
Hi Andreas, on Github, you have Pimox7 (account : pimox) that is a Proxmox V7 port to the RPi – I never used it, so it may be worth testing it, even if the last update is one year old.
Also note that an article from january the 12th 2024 on geeky-gadgets offers to install Proxmox V8.1 on a RPi 5 because it supports… booting from UEFI (title : "Installing Proxmox 8.2 virtualization platform on a Raspberry Pi 5"), it also references a video about that.
Very interesting. If I have a free wish I would vote for a few words on performance of the virtual machines (especially home-assistant).
I bought a Mini-PC and use proxmox on it as recommended here. And I'm happy with it.
Not and expert here… I have a Pi5 and a Nuc like PC and I was planning to install ProxMox on it, so maybe I need to watch some of your video that I skipped (or was not attentive). However, I discovered that qemu (used by ProxMox) can emulate a Pi3… so normally you could run an image made for the Pi and supposed to run on arm hardware, inside a box on an x86 server.
I wonder if you investigated this possibility… now I need to find your video on ProxMox. 🙂
Thanks.
At this point if you are not using the gpio and need only compute I don't see the selling point of Raspberry pi, I rather buy a tiny pc and get all its supported x86-64 architecture and huge memory space..
UEFI can be spoken more simply as "E.F.I boot mode" and written as "UEFI". Although "U.E.F.I." would be the correct term for the standard that may be implemented outside of Intel's de-facto EFI implementation, pronouncing it as a word was confusing. The filename extensions are '*.efi' on the EFI System Paritition of the EFI bootloader that implements Universal EFI specification. "Wiff Eee" "Why? Fie!" etc for WiFi has always been a long running joke what a strange mark that is to write and say, but there's no such contest over EFI.
Always useful and informative, thank you for the video!
Now I understand why you haven't had time recently to post new videos. Glad you shared your hard found knowledge. Thanks!
Xen (on Gentoo) user here. Proxmox is based on KVM which, in turn, was a fork from Xen. Xen is alive and well, but not for the faint-hearted. (Oracle's VM product finds its origin in Xen, too.) Virtualization is complicated and that why companies such as Citrix and Amazon make a business just getting hypervisor and VMs working. The big topic these days is to ensure privacy among the VMs, especially if you are cloud server offering a VM which is suppose to be hack proof and your data unavailable to a malicious neighboring VM. Then things get further complicated with UEFI. <sigh> I think development is only going to be towards areas where there is a potential for revenue… something antithetical to the philosophy of Raspberry Pi users. The people not paid by their employers supporting Xen in open source has dwindled — it's just getting too complex.employers supporting xen in open source has dwindled. Just a view from someone who shares your ideals.
The ARM processors are gaining server space in the data centers so would be cool if ProxMox officially supports it. Cool to see the community got it working…mostly.
raspberry pis seem to be primarily for low power consumption that everything else is secondary… like if it you can actually do something with it. but before you can even get a pi, availability is lowest in priority.
PI5 would not replace my home server (not enough IO and RAM) but could be a nice solution for a high availability stack running HA, OPNsense etc. I hope the issues will be ironed out soon.
For things like Home Assistant, people keep looking at either a RSPi or a mini-PC, but people keep forgetting a very attractive option: an (old or broken) laptop. I run my HA (on Proxmox) on a Dell laptop (i5 8Gb 512Gb) with a broken screen, which was free for me. Power consumption is 10.5 watts which, yes, is more than a RSPi but HA performs much better, and I have room on Proxmox to run other applications. Lastly, it has a built-in UPS.
So it's an option worth considering if you ask me.
Great video as always.
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i run a 3 RPI4 proxmox cluster with all my digital life there using many selfhoster services. Love it. Cant wait to put my hand on a pi5