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This FANLESS Mini PC is…
This FANLESS Mini PC is…
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We check out something long requested by our readers and viewers, a fanless AMD Ryzen 7 mini PC. Our guess is that some are going to really like this system and others are going to be puzzled by it.
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These fanless, industrial cases PCs are perfect for, well industrial applications where dust and environmental factors would be devastating for normal computers. For example CnC and wood shops. Had to manage a network where we had a few wood cutting rooms, and the amount of dust the filters for the PC cabinet would catch, was insane.
This might make a decent audio PC. Not for crazy projects but your average ten to twelve track stuff should be fine. I generally avoid AMD in favor for Intel re: audio and latency and general performance, but the new Ryzen chips are pretty insane. Don't really miss the USB3 and fast ethernet, not strictly for a number cruncher system like this.
Still, Win10 > windows11. I just got around to not hating Win10 lol
That thing has nothing interesting, why did it justify a video review?
Is there one that can be used as a 1080p gaming pc? Around 400usd?
No Thunderbolt 🙁
Well, it would be more expensive, wouldn't it?
I have one, and it makes some noticeable coil whine, specially under load, I was wondering if that unit also has it? (The seller said it is normal, but I had other fanless boxes in the past and none of them produced any noise)
YES that mediatek card is better for wifi access point than the usual Intel cards
Can you game with it?
Going by the IO and 1GB ethernet, it was most likely not built with the US or European market in mind.
There are some benefits of not having fans, as they all seem to wear out eventually. Agreed there could be better/more USB. This is probably a good system to use as a router, not so much a gaming pc. At least a good chunk of copper that is connected to a hefty external passive heatsink. Could be better, could be worse.
I'm searching fora good openwrt system. Too bad it's only 1gbe
Junk…
Would be nice if theyd stop building these damn things with AMD
I have an older gen of this …. Intel core i5 ….running 24/7 for yrs now ….as an htpc .
The MediaTek is what usually comes with AMD laptops (e.g. Thinkpad with AMD APU). The AX210 IIRC requires a 12th+ Gen Intel CPU to work.
It would be cool if Patrick could try and add up all the PCIe Lanes with tiny machines like this. I feel like efficient PCIe allotment/utilization lends itself to a superior product experience, and consumers should value an approach that analyzes it. I'm kind of wondering if this unit has lanes just sitting un-used with only dual 1GbE, limited USB, etc!
This design looks to be at least 3 or so years old, rather than something newer. I bet if you looked a unit from 2021 this would be comparable. I don't think people switched to putting Intel NICs in these types of boxes en masse until 2022.
I don't think you're going to find too many systems that include the misses you list – Type C, more USB ports, Intel NICs and a 3rd display output for that price.
This would be a very good home office box, or a basic streaming box for a room without wired ethernet.
FANLESS?!
since you pointed out that if we join you are using our money to purchase systems for review, what im wondering is how come you dont do give aways?……since you arent really out anything for the price of the machine you are reviewing…….when you start doing some giveaways i will consider joining….:)
I wouldn't buy from aliexpress, but as far as the ports, they are perfect for me.
Not sure about those lower end apus though, been burned by intel stuff.
Looks good for dusty areas.
What is the deal with 19 volt input power in these things instead of running from 12 or 24 volt batteries?
Convert to 2.5G and add USB4 with PD = profit
I guess you couldn't fit a 3.5 HDD in there or else he would have said that.
Like 10 years ago I had a little thinclient like this that I ran ZSNES on and played 2 player tetris with USB SNES controllers with my friends.
I would use this for some of our industrial clients. They have CAD workstation stations in close proximity to the CNC and milling machines. Any PC with a fan dies quick in that environment. This gives them some good CPU/GPU speed, while not requiring active cooling.
"Look how cheap we bought this for! Amazing!" "Look at how this has such low end parts!" I wonder if they're related.
You had me until you said 1gb ports…for a fast 1-2 monitor desktop, not bad, but if the ports are geared more towards a network device and networking is only gigabit, no thanks. Thank you for the upload though!
as soon as you said no 2.5 i left
What is the purpose of USB C? Like I don’t get it. The only thing I have that uses it is my phone. I get there are USB hubs and flash drives but… what else? They don’t seem all that useful tbh
When Patrick tells us to have an awesome day… it always makes me smile haha.
Love STH so much
I'm holding off for now, i want AV1 encode and decode support
It would have also been very interesting to know the temperatures of the CPU, SDD etc in the different scenarios: idle, stress… etc. To get an idea of how much its components suffer.
But anyway the review is very interesting, as always. Thank you!
Took a bet on a newly released 4 port 2.5g n100 box, with USB C, on aliexpress. Was really cheap after discounts, around $110 with no ram and ssd. Was pleasantly surprised that the PSU it came with was UL listed, even though it was an older type V efficiency as opposed to newer type VI. Runs a bit toasty (50c idle) so I might throw a slim 80mm fan in there at some point. I think mine was oem'd by CWWK but buying from aliexpress is definitely a bit of a risk and hit and miss depending from whom and what.
I love my 7840HS PC from AliExpress except it is 1+2.5Gbe. I am talking about the one with big fan/not turbo, and another fan in the memory chamber. Extremely pretty and efficient design with RGB❤
When patreon?
i would like to get just those motherboards 😀
I've seached sooo long for a test of this PC. Thank you! But I was really interested for the temperatures.
That's basically just a Batocera box, as if that's a bad thing.
Sooo, this could be good for running kodi? I'm looking for something to replace my old NUC6CAYB. Does it run linux?
very underwhelming device
I'll have to run the calculations to see how it stacks up against some of the lower cost options (but only comes with the Intel Core i3-N305 as the fastest CPU option when you're in the < $300 range.
Above that, you can definitely get faster processors with better connectivity options, but when you try to below that, it gets more challenging, and it is even MORE challenging when you go towards the < $200 price point.
Two 1G NICs does give this unit a few more use cases, even if it robs a few from the possibility of 2.5G. I wonder if the two HDMI ports both support HDMI 2.1 features, otherwise a Displayport connector would have been nice.
How would i get a Bios Update for this PC, i think Topton is only the reseller and not the manufacturer
The design choices offer lessor I/O, but was this necessary to reduce power and heat as needed for this fanless system?
If I recall right, that MT7921 wifi solution allows you to use this device as an Access Point with the right software. Not very common; not the best performer, but…
With regards to your failed mini-PC, have a word with Graham from the Adamant IT channel. He might be able to fix it.
Given your collection of mini PCs, please test how they fare in gaming at 4k with a RTX 4090 over an Oculink connection.